| | | | PA Radio – Episode 151: Christopher McDougall

Author / John


we are animals. period.

We are bringing you an amazing episode this week. John, Luke and Tex speak with author of the widely popular book titled Born to Run.  Chris McDougall is no stranger to the big man struggle. Standing at 6’4 and well over 200 lbs, he was not what one would consider a naturally adept long distance runner. However, Chris’ research on the subject led this lifelong athlete to ask the question? If others his size had been doing it out of necessity for thousands of years, why NOT him?

Ultimately, these questions led to the publication of Born to Run and his latest book, Natural Born Heroes. This episode is a meaty conversation full of Chris’ historical research and fascinating observations of cultural, social, and psychosocial connections to the act of  athletic performance under stress.

Chris McDougall is passionate about unraveling the why’s of human performance. Hear his take on where we came from and where he thinks our culture is headed…and why he no longer watches organized sports on TV. His reasoning for this is searingly true and inspiring.



It’s time to break a mental sweat. Head to http://www.chrismcdougall.com/ for more information about his research, philosophy, and to get your copy of not only Born to Run, but Chris’ latest book, Natural Born Heroes.

Again, a special thank you to Chris McDougall for joining us on the show.  He’s kind of a big deal and we were humbled to have him.

Share this article




John Welbourn is CEO of Power Athlete and Fuse Move. He is also creator of the online training phenomena, Johnnie WOD. He is a 9 year veteran of the NFL. John was drafted with the 97th pick in 1999 NFL Draft and went on to be a starter for the Philadelphia Eagles from 1999-2003, appearing in 3 NFC Championship games, and for starter for the Kansas City Chiefs from 2004-2007. In 2008, he played with the New England Patriots until an injury ended his season early with him retiring in 2009. Over the course of his career, John has started over 100 games and has 10 play-off appearances. He was a four year lettermen while playing football at the University of California at Berkeley. He graduated with a bachelor's degree in Rhetoric in 1998. John has worked with the MLB, NFL, NHL, Olympic athletes and Military. He travels the world lecturing on performance and nutrition for Power Athlete. You can catch up with John as his personal blog on training, food and life, Talk To Me Johnnie and at Power Athlete.


  1. JZ on April 18, 2016 at 9:02 am

    I like how Chris McDougall giving Ursinus a shout!

  2. zevenesh on April 23, 2016 at 4:57 am

    This was a kick ass episode, his book Natural Born Heroes was also bad ass!

    Very inspiring, that book was hard to put down!

    I love his thoughts / philosophy on “training to be useful”

    I think he was REALLY trying to say was that our generation is VERY FAR off what / where we should and could be!

  3. TonySka on May 12, 2016 at 8:25 am

    Hi guys,

    Just downloaded this episode because I am a fan of Mr. McDougall. I am not too familiar with your podcast but I like what I have heard. That said, I’d like to offer some constructive criticism. When you have a guest, you guys should considering talking less, asking more questions, and giving your guest the opportunity to talk more. The ratio of host to guest talk time in this episode was wildly out of balance, in my opinion. Mr Welbourn spent a lot of time talking about his own experiences and insights, which was very interesting to hear, but it didn’t engage Mr. McDougall enough, and frankly, seemed a little indulgent given that you had a world-class guest. I was hoping to hear way more from Mr McDougall, and was disappointed. Overall, I liked the episode, and the mission of your podcast, but that was something that stuck out. Again, I hope this is taken constructively, I know how much work goes into this sort of thing. Thanks!

Leave a Comment


Never miss out on an epic blog post or podcast, drop your email below and we’ll stay in-touch.

  • This field is for validation purposes and should be left unchanged.